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Bush: ISPs Must Help Government Spy On Internet Users
posted by turmis on Friday December 20, @08:48PM
from the He-knows-when-you-are-surfing-he-knows-when-you-are-not... dept.
News The Bush administration is proposing requiring ISPs to create a centralized system which will help the government monitor the internet and possibly spy on its users. The President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board included the proposal as part of its report on The National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace. Critics say that the system would be just as invasive as Carnivore only on a much larger scale.

Read more at The New York Times

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    One thing of note... (Score:1)
    by psxndc on Saturday December 21, @12:30AM (#539)
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    The examples given in the draft all revolve around the damage caused by Code Red and NIMDA. No call however is made to have code reviewable to find holes and bugs. I'm not even implying MS should open their code (it'd be nice, but won't happen), but if so much of the nation's infrastructure relies on their products, can the nation trust them to write secure code? Shouldn't this proposal call for such reviews, even if it only open to the government?

    psxndc

    Re:One thing of note... (Score:1)
    by nategall on Saturday December 21, @09:14AM (#540)
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    sure the programs are buggy as hell, but what is harder, making the programs bullet proof or making it illegal to find out that every thing sucks.

    Next, just pass a law saying it is terroristic to mention that anything the government is doing might not be right, and we will be well off to a beautiful world. And yes, I know it's beautiful because they told me so.

    hey george, good plan!

    nategall says "blah!"
    Hitlerism anyone? (Score:1)
    by Audacious on Thursday December 26, @08:18PM (#542)
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    In Nazis Germany the government asked the people to spy on and report neighbors who did "suspicious" activities. Then the government got the children to do the same. Postal workers were also required to do this.

    Ah... how far we have come. Rules to live by if you want to control the populace:

    1. To control the people you must first control the media.
    2. You must engender Fear, Unease, and Distrust (or FUDs) in people so they will look to you for comfort.
    3. Turn everyone against a common foe. (Jews in WWII, Saddam Hussein in today's world.) Remember - you do not have to have a sane reason for doing so - just stir up feelings so everyone is behind you.
    4. Do away with Congress and the Senate. Oops! We haven't quite gotten there yet have we? Well, maybe next year.
    5. Kill, jail, or otherwise get rid of all of those who oppose you. (Can't be done until the government is basically overthrown.)
    6. Usage of military force to maintain control.

    Kind of scary - isn't it? We are already half way there and the majority is now all one party. It just will take the right kind of stimuli to get us to #4. Like going to war. Just like Germany did.

    And no - I'm not Ted Rall.

    Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition. - Isaac Asimov

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