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Professor Fisher and the Red Eye
posted by mpawlo on Monday August 04, @08:43AM
from the opinion dept.
Copyright According to the Encyclopaedia of Arda, Sauron built the Barad-dûr, the dark tower of Sauron. From the highest tower of Barad-dûr, Sauron kept an unceasing watch on the lands and kingdoms of Middle-earth with the all-seeing Red Eye. Sounds scary? Professor William W. Fisher, III, has just presented a proposition that is to copyright what Sauron’s Red Eye was to the citizens of Middle-earth.



Professor Fisher proposes a system where ‘the creator of a recording would register it with the U.S. Copyright Office and would receive, in return, a unique file name, which would be used to track Internet transmissions of the work. The government would tax devices and services used to gain access to digital entertainment. The primary target of such a tax would be ISP access.’

Professor Fisher is both right and wrong. The biggest flaw in his proposal is the implied digital rights management system (“DRM”). Even though the DRM system proposed by Professor Fisher sounds like a reasonable one, it has the same grim implications as did Sauron’s all-seeing Red Eye in the books by J.R.R. Tolkien. You can not be a little bit pregnant. You can not have a little bit DRM. Still, you do not need DRM to create a compulsory licensing systems. You will be able to calculate ratings based on statistics, not much unlike the Nielsen system for television ratings. A compulsory licensing system as such is better than prohibiting filesharing. It is probable that a lot of the filesharing is a result of music having little demand-elasticity. There is no room for higher prices on CDs and some of the extensive copying and the slumping sales in the industry could probably be explained by prices being to high, setting a stop in the demand-curve. Still, it is hardly acceptable to just sit and watch the rise of illegal filesharing. So – how should the consumer’s demand for music be met with law and policy?

Prohibition of filesharing would not solve this problem, because people would still not be able to buy more music because of the demand-elasticity problem. On the contrary, prohibition might create a black-market, which is happening with Kazaa-music-trades. Prohibition will also possibly erode the public trust in copyright. I believe we need copyright. Copyright creates an incentive for large-scale productions and possible means for return on investment in the intellectual property. However, a too strict copyright regime will ultimately make consumers turn to the black-market and disregard copyright. For example, if the current proposal to a new copyright act in Sweden is enforced (based on the same WIPO principle’s as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act), you will not be allowed to copy the Robbie Williams CD you have purchased to play it in the car, should the CD contain copy-protection and you want to keep the original CD in your home stereo equipment. However, you are allowed, according to the proposal, to copy the CD to play it in the car, should the CD not contain copy-protection. In practice, most CDs will contain copy-protection under this proposal, why the copy in the car will be illegal, although within the scope of fair-use. This kind of flawed logic will hardly increase the public’s understanding of copyright and why it is important. Professor Fisher’s proposal deals with this problem in a marvellous way, also embracing new technology and making it possible to create new ways of digital distribution. However, Professor Fisher’s proposal also poses a potential danger to privacy comparable to Sauron’s Red Eye and this is why we would be better off using levies instead of the system proposed by Professor Fisher. Levies are a fee that increases the price of recordable media, such as CD-Rs. The fee is distributed to copyright proprietors by the collecting societies, that is organisations representing copyright proprietors.

Levies are not a perfect system. Levies will not compensate copyright proprietors and creators of “smaller”, lesser-known works. Actually, it is more probable that Britney Spears get a cut than I will, should you decide to save this article on a CD-R. Hence, all music artists will not be duly compensated through levies and some use – such as streaming – will never be subject to levies. However, the price of levies is one that I happily pay in order to keep my privacy. The fee will impose an uncalled for burden on people only using recording media to storage their pictures from the vacation or their free software or doing backup of their personal files. Too some extent, this could be dealt with in the construction of the levies, but not to the last mile. Some people will be unduly “taxed” by levies. But the inefficiency of levies is the brilliance of levies. I do not want anyone to monitor my individual transactions and usage of intellectual works. The digital era has a huge potential in creating omniscient bodies. Professor Fisher’s proposal would create just that – the Red Eye of Copyright. One body per country would know exactly what you were doing, reading and listening to. It would be a fair system to copyright proprietors and consumers, but only fair in respect of copyright. Privacy would be erased. The Internet would become the all-seeing eye, creating omnipotence even Sauron would envy. Is this really the kind of power we want to unleash to the RIAA?

I would personally be very happy to see a future of copyright where proprietors deal with their own problems on the free market, without the interference of regulators. It is possible to meet the black-market of filesharing with legal, commercial alternatives. Apple’s iTunes store is the proof, selling more than 5 million songs since April this year, with a very limited potential customer base. However, the regulators are already past this possibility, due to successful lobbying by the record industry. We can no longer choose to sit and wait for Apple’s iTunes and its competitors and measure their joint success in commercially fighting illegal downloads, because of WIPO’s Copyright Treaty and the subsequent Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the European Copyright Directive (EUCD or sometimes referred to as Infosoc).

In a world where we need to choose between different evil things, levies are the least intrusive. It is not perfect. But it works. Without bringing Sauron to my hard-drive.

Mikael Pawlo

Mikael Pawlo is an associate of the Swedish law firm Advokatfirman Lindahl. On nights and weekends he works as an editor for the leading Swedish open source and free software publication Gnuheter. He is also contributing editor of the Harvard Berkman Center publication on Internet law issues, Greplaw.org.

Please note that other Greplaw contributors might have a different take on the subject.

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    Arguable, Wrong, Wrong (Score:1)
    by LuYu on Monday August 04, @04:02PM (#952)
    User #460 Info | http://grep.law.harvard.edu/
    The RIAA is right about three things. First, under current copyright law, the behavior of the file swappers is illegal.

    This is arguable first because most copyright violations are a civil issue and second because the volume of copying and how the copies are used has a direct impact on how the laws are applied. It is only a criminal issue when the volume exceeds a certain standard or copying is done for profit. If it is not a criminal issue, it is not illegal per se.

    Second, partly (although only partly) as a result of the ubiquity of file swapping, the music industry is in crisis. CD sales continue to decline, record company revenue is falling at an accelerating pace, and many music retailers are going out of business.

    There has been no conclusive evidence to prove that fileswapping has anything to do with the music industry's problems. Filesharing is more of a scapegoat in the industry's desperate bid for the reassertment of its monopoly of music distribution. Price fixing, bad customer relations [boycott-riaa.com], bad product offerings (think eminem... if you dare), the current economy, and a host of other things can all be resonably suspected of causing the the industry's decline.

    Third, among the groups threatened by this crisis are the creators of music--the composers and performers.

    This is also not likely. According to Boycott-Riaa.com [boycott-riaa.com]:

    ... 85% to 90% of all artists signed to the major labels will never receive 1 cent from their label in royalties for the music they created.

    The "I" in RIAA stands for "industry" not "artists". You can only be threatened with losing something you have. If copyright does not benefit the artists, what is its purpose?

    So, more or less, the RIAA is wrong about three things, but that is okay, they have the money and influence to force their arguments to be right. The basis for the entire argument made by Professor Fisher is flawed, so the rest of his argument is just a solution to a problem that does not exist. Remember, to understand the ultimate answer, one needs the ultimate question (it looks like I have taken a turn at paraphrasing :). It seems as if Professor Fisher has neither.

    "Anyone who doesn't quote me is paraphrasing."
    Re:Arguable, Wrong, Wrong (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Monday August 04, @04:28PM (#953)
    User #42 Info | http://www.pawlo.com/
    Just to make this clear: the quotes commented above is from Professor Fisher's article, not mine.
    Sorry about that (Score:1)
    by LuYu on Tuesday August 05, @03:09AM (#960)
    User #460 Info | http://grep.law.harvard.edu/

    I did not mean to be unclear about who the quotes came from. This is especially true since I agree with many of your statements and disagree almost entirely with Professor Fisher.

    "Anyone who doesn't quote me is paraphrasing."
    Wow, I did not expect that (Score:1)
    by LuYu on Monday August 04, @04:30PM (#954)
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    I got stuck on that introductory paragraph, but after reading the rest of the essay, I see that this Professor Fisher is really a communist. Everybody who listens to anything pays a portion of the total volume of songs. How is that fair?

    So, if I buy a CD burner to backup my harddrive, will I be paying a tax to subsidize some 12 year old's listening habits? What if I want to boycott the music industry and still backup my harddrive? What do I do then? Carve the data into a rock?

    Not only that, but once you get the government involved with this large amount of revenue, how does one avoid graft and theft? Or the inclusion of it into income tax law? Then what happens? Do I go to jail if I did not purchase my quota of music for the year? Can I be audited?

    This guy is smoking crack with a fat pipe.

    "Anyone who doesn't quote me is paraphrasing."
    Re:Wow, I did not expect that (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Monday August 04, @06:25PM (#955)
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    Professor Fisher a communist?

    I think you need to contemplate thinking about thinking before submitting your comments (thanks Robbie! [lyricstime.com]). I can not say I find anything in Professor Fisher's article that makes your claim sustainable. Professor Fisher's proposal is pro-industry and a threat to privacy on behalf of the big five (or are they just three these days?). How is this communism? Professor Fisher's idea is less about Marx, Lenin or even Stalin and more about reinforcing capitalism with the legal tool.

    Regards,

    Mikael
    Re:Wow, I did not expect that (Score:1)
    by LuYu on Tuesday August 05, @03:04AM (#959)
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    I rarely make the accusation of communism. However, in this case, I think it is warranted for two reasons.

    First, his plan requires state control of the copyright royalty tax. This is unfair and dangerous. When the government collects revenues for private businessmen or artists or whoever, the system cannot be called capitalism. Capitalists grow their businesses and collect their revenues without government intervention. Communist governments by contrast do the functions of business, eliminating the need for private enterprise.

    Secondly, this system forces people who do not "consume" the music (or entertainment, or whatever) to pay anyway. As I said in the parent: if I buy a CD burner to backup my harddrive, will I be paying a tax to subsidize some 12 year old's listening habits? It is a good question because this is an even tax for uneven use. It also unfairly targets people who use hardware for "other significant non-infringing uses".

    Now you of all people are not one I would like to anger. I think your opinions are excellent, and I have learned a great deal from you. I cannot back down from that statement, however, because in addition to the two reasons stated above, you have pointed out that this idea is akin to Sauron's Red Eye, which adds to state control and unfair pricing the loss of privacy. Were we not always taught that the reason Stalin was so scary was that people had to be careful of everything they did and said? How can we be free from that when our purchasing history is logged by the government for the purpose of billing? How far down the road will we be before the Justice Department gets ahold of these records? There is no question "mission creep" would become an issue there.

    "Anyone who doesn't quote me is paraphrasing."
    Re:Wow, I did not expect that (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Tuesday August 05, @03:21AM (#962)
    User #42 Info | http://www.pawlo.com/
    'Secondly, this system forces people who do not "consume" the music (or entertainment, or whatever) to pay anyway. As I said in the parent: if I buy a CD burner to backup my harddrive, will I be paying a tax to subsidize some 12 year old's listening habits?'

    So does my proposal, which - according to your line of reasoning - would make me a communist. However, I think that levies are good just because they are blind. If I have to choose between giving a few extra cents to Britney and having someone monitoring my Internet transactions, I easily go for Britney.

    Best regards,

    Mikael
    Re:Wow, I did not expect that (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Tuesday August 05, @03:29AM (#963)
    User #42 Info | http://www.pawlo.com/
    'Now you of all people are not one I would like to anger.'

    I am rarely upset, but I think your name-calling was uncalled for. When you mention Professor Fisher and Stalin in the same comment I think you are out of line.

    Regards,

    Mikael
    There is no red eye (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:29PM (#956)
    (reposting from my pho message)

    Dear pho and Mikael,

    My name's Derek Slater, long time reader, first time poster.

    Mikael's criticisms are clever, but they seem to discuss a different system than Fisher's.

    First, Professor Fisher's proposal most certainly does not "monitor my individual transactions and usage of intellectual works." There is no Red Eye. Fisher intends to monitor downloads and streams, but not each individual use of digital media. In his latest draft of the model (see http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/tfisher/PTKCha pter6.pdf), he only goes as far as suggesting voluntary surveys to get a sense of how many times a given work is consumed. None of this would be automated or required via any software or media device, and I do not believe he has ever suggested otherwise. (In previous drafts, Fisher had also noted that sampling could be done at the router level, see: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/stories/stor yReader$14)

    Certainly, monitoring downloads and streams can be privacy invading, too, but no more privacy invading than accessing webcasts today or typical credit card purchases of CDs. Though all of that can be recorded and attributed to you in some fashion, there is nothing in Fisher's model that would require such recording. All statistics could be completely anonymous.

    Second, I'm a little confused by Mikael's misgivings about Fisher's DRM. What DRM? In the conventional sense of the term, Fisher's plan has none - there are no restrictions on use or copying. There is a watermark that allows downloading and streams to be counted, but that's a matter of digital rights expression.

    Finally, I am also confused by Mikael's desire for "levies," whatever that may mean. Fisher's plan involves levies on recording devices and ISPs. The difference seems to be that the levies Mikael suggest do not come with any reciprocal reduction in copyright holder's rights. File-sharing would remain infringement, fair use would still be ambiguous - I am unclear as to why a pure levy-based wealth transfer is preferable.

    I am glad more people, especially those on pho, are discussing Fisher's plan. To begin to evaluate it, we must first separate the myths from the facts. For more information, check out: http://www.hodder.org/LinkConvCompLic.htm

    Sincerely, Derek Slater http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings
    Re:There is no red eye (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Tuesday August 05, @03:16AM (#961)
    User #42 Info | http://www.pawlo.com/
    No, file-sharing would not mean infringement as such, neither does it today. There is legal file-sharing and illegal file-sharing. If I choose to release my own songs, with the copyright held by myself, in a peer-to-peer network with a Create Commons license stating that you may share and distribute the content freely, you would not infringe my rights by actually sharing the content.

    File-sharing of non-released music would be infringement even in my proposal. File-sharing of released music could be dealt with through levies. The levies in my proposal would be higher than in Fisher's, thus creating a bigger burden on 'the innocent' than Professor Fisher's proposal. It is not perfect, but I have yet to see the perfect system for dealing with access rights or copyrights in the digital era. However, the communication in Professor Fisher's proposal is far from anonymous, should you not compromise the end-to-end principle of the Internet. It is easy to forget the Internet's architecture, but in order to collect Professor Fisher's tags you will have to tap each user's data streams at the ISP level. Hence - there is no anonymity. Calling this system not DRM but 'digital rights expression' is misleading in a way that both Wittgenstein and Frege would object to. DRM is far from a narrowed down expression, but used to describe a wide range of techniques that use information about rights and rightsholders to manage copyrighted content.

    Further - how will you treat data that is unmarked? I guess you will have to monitor individual transactions, should the amount of data transferred to a certain individual make you suspicous. How will you treat costs? Should all customers at an ISP pay the same price, although it is possible to see exactly who downloaded a certain song?

    Maybe we are misunderstanding each other because we have different views of privacy. I think the combination of my library card, my credit card and Internet downloads carries the key to my personality and I do not want a single entity - except for myself - to control it. However, if you regard this a minor issue ('I have nothing to hide!') then Professor Fisher's suggestion is obviously better and more accurate than mine.

    A pure system of levies - even if more costly and blind - are better because they do not compromise the Internet end-to-end principle or the privacy of the users. Sure - it will be more expensive to save those pictures from your vacation, but that is a cheap price for privacy - if you ask me.

    Best regards,

    Mikael Pawlo
    Re:There is no red eye (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 05, @01:17PM (#964)
    Derek Slater here again, reposting from pho.

    Quoting Mikael Pawlo :

    > File-sharing of non-released music would be infringement even in my
    > proposal. File-sharing of released music could be dealt with through
    > levies. The levies in my proposal would be higher than in Fisher's, thus
    > creating a bigger burden on 'the innocent' than Professor Fisher's
    > proposal.

    I am still unclear as to what sort of levies plan this is. Does your plan end with levies? Or is that the beginning of changing infringement laws?

    > However, the
    > communication in Professor Fisher's proposal is far from anonymous, should
    > you not compromise the end-to-end principle of the Internet. It is easy to
    > forget the Internet's architecture, but in order to collect Professor
    > Fisher's tags you will have to tap each user's data streams at the ISP
    > level.

    Mikael, I highly recommend that you read Fisher's actual draft proposal.

    First, as I noted, Professor Fisher does not rely on tapping data streams at the ISP level. Sampling at the router and ISP levels is a possibility. However, his current draft suggests that websites, webcasters, and P2P providers would record data transmissions in much the same way radio stations and webcasters already can keep track of such things. This can be done anonymously.

    Second, be careful when using e2e as a trump card. Even if we sampled at the ISP level, that wouldn't fundamentally change the Internet-as-we-know-it. It would not mean favoring certain packets over others, changing how the routing happens, anything like that. To use Fisher's analogy, the monitoring would be like putting a person beside the highway and recording license plate numbers (watermarks); you don't know where the cars/files are going, you don't know where they're coming from, you just know that they're going. And thus you don't affect where they're going either.

    > Further - how will you treat data that is unmarked?

    Marking is a requirement for copyright protection and payment.

    > I guess you will have
    > to monitor individual transactions, should the amount of data
    > transferred to a certain individual make you suspicous.

    Are you talking about ballot-stuffing or other abuses of the system?

    > How will you treat
    > costs? Should all customers at an ISP pay the same price, although it is
    > possible to see exactly who downloaded a certain song?

    As far as I know, Fisher has intended to apply the tax without regard to how much you download. Flat taxes would be applied to things like CD burners, blank CDs, and/or ISP access - see his doc for more details. If this burden to non-users is too great, one could conceive of allowing ISPs who do not allow downloading marked media. I don't think that's too feasible, but see Cory Doctorow's comments here for more info (http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings/comments?u= cmusings&p=136&link=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.law.harvard .edu%2Fcmusings%2F2003%2F04%2F16%23a136)
     
    > Maybe we are misunderstanding each other because we have different views
    > of privacy. I think the combination of my library card, my credit card and
    > Internet downloads carries the key to my personality and I do not want a
    > single entity - except for myself - to control it. However, if you regard
    > this a minor issue ('I have nothing to hide!') then Professor Fisher's
    > suggestion is obviously better and more accurate than mine.

    I don't think I have a terribly different view of privacy than you, but I do think I'm framing the problem differently:

    Already, collecting organizations, webcasters, music download services, the websites you access - they're all collecting info on what you're doing. In the case of webcasting, it is already mandated by law that webcasters record your actions and give that info to Soundexchange.

    So, when I look at Fisher's proposal, I don't see the creation of a privacy problem. That privacy problem already exists, with or without Fisher's proposal, and, as you suggest, this problem must be dealt with very carefully. But ignoring Fisher's plan simply because it has privacy implications misses the point, for digital media by definition has privacy implications.

    Perhaps the criticism is that Fisher will entrench or compound the problem - this is what I sense from your use of the term "single entity." You worry that mandating this sort of collection by one agency will breed misuse.

    Again, collection for webcasters is already mandated by law. But, more importantly, misuse implies motive and capacity, which I do not think exist in this case. Following Fisher's guidelines, the collecting agency (in his proposal, the Copyright Office) would explicitly not want individualized information. I repeat, no one will record your downloads as attributed to you. In turn, it is unlikely that digital media providers would be required to give the agency that information, and thus the agency would lack the capacity to misuse it.

    Even if they do have the information, where is the motive? You suggested in your first post that this information would be turned over to the RIAA, but the Copyright Office would be the only ones with access to the info. Unlike the RIAA or Soundexchange, the Copyright Office has no reason to use individualized info for privacy-invading marketing purposes.

    If you like, we can now play out the hypotheticals, including the fact that the government is more likely to be captured by large private interest groups, eg. the RIAA, and thus will give away the information anyway. If the government can do no good, then we have bigger fish to fry. Please, let's not lump DARPA and the Copyright Office together. (Frankly, the capture problem is more significant when it comes to Fisher's proposed pay-out, not to privacy.)

    Once again, I urge you to take a closer look at his proposal:
    http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/tfisher/PTKCha pter6.pdf

    Sincerely,
    Derek Slater
    http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cmusings
    Re:There is no red eye (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Tuesday August 05, @04:31PM (#972)
    User #42 Info | http://www.pawlo.com/
    At 2:15 PM -0400 8/5/03, Mr Derek Slater wrote:
    >> Further - how will you treat data that is unmarked?
    >Marking is a requirement for copyright protection and payment.


    This is a too important thing to debate in haste and I would like to be able to continue the debate when I have more time. Just two more questions for the time being: if I take a copyrighted work, remove the watermark and then redistribute it (i e as unmarked data) - what happens according to Professor Fisher?

    Also - is Professor Fisher's plan compliant with the DMCA and WIPO Copyright Treaty?

    Finally - is Professor Fisher in Oxford or just to bored by this too interfere in person? .-)

    Regards,

    Mikael
    Re:There is no red eye (Score:1)
    by Terry Fisher on Wednesday August 06, @10:07AM (#975)
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    Not bored. Several of your comments are interesting. But many of your comments suggest that you have not yet read the paper in which I try to grapple with these issues. Once you've read it, I'd be happy to talk further. Terry Fisher
    Re:There is no red eye (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Wednesday August 06, @10:42AM (#976)
    User #42 Info | http://www.pawlo.com/
    Cnet columns are dangerous.
    Re:There is no red eye (Score:1)
    by Terry Fisher on Wednesday August 06, @12:12PM (#977)
    User #112 Info
    Apparently. I originally suggested that CNET include a link to the draft, which might have reduced the danger somewhat.
    Re:There is no red eye (Score:2)
    by mpawlo on Wednesday August 06, @04:00PM (#978)
    User #42 Info | http://www.pawlo.com/
    Indeed. When is the book due?
    on the issue of levies... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 07, @04:50AM (#979)
    While a levy might seem to be a good idea, they appear to be flawed in practice. In Canada, such a levy was placed on recordable media some years ago. They recently applied for an increase in the levy, particularly to tax high-capacity mp3 players. Now, so far this seems reasonable, as long as you're not they type of person who screams "Pinko! Let me git mah gun!" whenever you see a hint of socialism. That aspect of the debate we can leave out for now. However, in the several years the system has been in place, not one payment has been made from the collection agency to any artist or copyright holder. Let me emphasise that: years. In the mean time, they've collected C$28 million, and expect (with the increased levies) about C$100 million this year. This example should make anyone think twice about the efficacy of levies in terms of compensation for copying. The consumer does end up paying for it, but that doesn't much matter if copyright holders don't see any of that money.
    Levies cannot work (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 08, @08:33AM (#986)
    You have glossed over a major issue - who gets the levy? Anyone who has registered a copyright? This would (i) freeze out the small guys who can't pay the fee for each item they produce and (ii) result in "google-bombing" of the copyright office by large media corporations, where income is derived by the percentage of copyrights filed. Decided by some board? Who? Criteria? I just see no way that levies make the small or large guy happy.

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