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Hollywood Not Fighting Enough
posted by mpawlo on Sunday August 31, @03:57PM
from the talking-movies dept.
Copyright You thought Pirates of the Carribean was bad?
It is nothing compared to how the possible future of the movie industry looks due to the threat of digital piracy. According to an article in the Economist the movie industry is not doing enough to fight piracy. The movie industry has better prospects than the music industry, but still it need to adjust, and adjust quickly with price cuts, changed release policy and the use of viral marketing, if you choose to believe the Economist:

'Assuming it is not resigned to milking all it can from its customers while awaiting inevitable demise at the hands of the pirates, the movie industry should rethink its business model.'

Read more in the Economist.

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    BS piracy arguments (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 31, @04:16PM (#1105)
    I always have a hard time swallowing the "piracy is ruining the industry" argument.

    I have downloaded gazillions of Simpsons and Family Guy episodes, yet I *still* buy the DVDs.

    Do I give a shit about The Hot Chick DVD? No. Maybe (at most) I'll download a rip at work, skip through the funny parts, and then delete it when I'm done.

    The one thing that I'll give studios is that it is a heck of a lot more expensive to make a movie than an album. Pirated MP3s could still make the artist money if the listener decides to go to a concert. Whereas if someone pirates a DVD, there's really no other way for the company, artist, actor, etc. to make money.

    stupid idea (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 31, @04:26PM (#1106)
    Assuming it is not resigned to milking all it can from its customers while awaiting inevitable demise at the hands of the pirates, the movie industry should rethink its business model. Movielink might be improved. Prices might be cut to reduce the appeal of piracy. Hollywood should lower the price of DVDs from today's $15-20 to $7-10, says Tom Wolzien, an analyst at Sanford Bernstein, and go for volume. The studios have packed their DVDs full of extra content—director's cuts, and so on—supposedly offering more value. Why not sell a no-frills, cheaper version? asks James Roberts, a consultant at Mercer.

    I personally think that Mr. Robert's idea is stupid. Once you strip out the extra content, a DVD is essentially the same as the pirated DVD rips floating around in P2Pland. Why even pay $7 for it?

    $7 gets you 3 packs of 50 cdrs at Best Buy (after rebate, of course).

    The Real Problem with this Argument (Score:1)
    by LuYu on Monday September 01, @03:39AM (#1109)
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    There are many things that are wrong with this article. Interestingly, while critisizing the movie industry, the article cannot decide whether to place the blame on the consumer or the industry, but it rehashes a number of false arguments everyone has heard before.

    I think the core problem with the movie industry's arguments comes down one thing: box office sales. Here are two contradictory quotes from the article demonstrating what I am saying:

    The campaign is unlikely to have much effect, industry-watchers say, as everyone knows how many millions the latest blockbuster grossed and how much the star got.

    If the movie industry does not work out its position quickly, says Mr Wolzien, it could go the same way as music. This might even mean that actors would be paid a lot less.
    Let's face it. The movie industry counts success or failure of movies in box office sales. They always have. DVD and video cassette sales are just gravy. They always have been. Until box office sales go down, movie studios are not going to have to cut anybody's pay. Even if they gave their movies away for free on the Internet, we would all go see movies in the movie theater.

    What is better about movie theaters? Well, I think a giant screen is worth paying to watch a movie on. Most people must agree with me as movie attendance always goes up regardless of Hollywood's tendancy to cry wolf about "piracy". Even if I have the DVD, a movie still looks better on a 15 to 20 foot screen. Even if I am fairly wealthy, I doubt I will be able to build that into my house. 15 foot screens are certainly not going to be added to the average house in the near future.

    Therefore, the movie industry just needs to realize that the free ride is over. The "Boston Strangler" is not going to profit the movie industry as it did in the late 80's and 90's (despite their protests that it was killing them). They are going to have to survive in an environment with more sophisticated movie goers who might have seen the movie before they pay to see it on a bigger screen. Who here would not go to see Matrix: Revolutions on the big screen even if they had seen it on DVD?

    Hollywood's bellyaching is all BS, as usual. They will still profit. They will only suffer the loss of their monopoly rents on secondary sales of already paid for movies.

    "Anyone who doesn't quote me is paraphrasing."
    Piracy can be good (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 01, @08:18AM (#1110)
    They've cancelled Stargate SG1 and Futurama here in Estonia. Not enough viewers apparently. I grab the new episodes off bittorrent. Right now I'm watching old episodes of Futurama again. I also get some very nice documentaries that I wouldn't get here otherwise.

    As for movies, then I (usually) don't pirate them. If I do, then to see if the movie is good. The versions you see mostly are really bad cams right from the cinema anyway. I admit it that I grabbed a lousy cammed version of Matrix Reloaded. I watched it with some friends. A week later we went to the cinema to watch it. And I also added it to the list of DVDs to get should I purchase a DVD player any time soon. Have not felt a need for one yet - lack of good movies.

    What I really love about the "pirate underground" are the rare old classics and stuff you can't get anywhere else. A great example would be the Babylon 5: Crusade series that was cancelled after the 13th episode and never released on a DVD or VHS. Or you can hunt around for people who are into old movies and ask them for some classics. Hell, you can get all the works of Kubrick from the Internet. You can't find that stuff on DVDs nor at video rentals.

    This "movie piracy" mainly exists to boost the profits of good movies and to lower the profits of really bad ones. It is pretty rare if a good quality rip (not a cam or "telesync") is released before the movie hits your local cinema. Even here.

    Humanity has the stars in its future, and that future is too important to be lost under the burden of juvenile folly and ignorant superstition. - Isaac Asimov

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